300ZX Air-Conditioning Problems

Image of 300Zx with AC problems

300ZX AC Problems

I had a few 300ZX air-conditioning problems with my 1988 Z. in case these are problems that are inherent in these vehicles I will describe them below. When I got this car it had r12 Freon in the system as you would expect from an older vehicle such as this.

Me being an automotive mechanic that has converted many systems, I was prepared to do the same to this vehicle. I did have a 1 pound can of r-12 Freon that I used to bring the system up to its proper level when I first got the car. I was expecting that someday I would have to convert the system to the new R-134a. To my surprise I did have problems with the air-conditioning system but never had a refrigerant problem so I never converted the system.

I have put a page together on my you fix cars website that has more tips and directions for people that want to convert from r12 to 134a. There is more to the procedure then just dumping one and installing the other. In fact if you do not follow the recommended procedure your air-conditioning system will probably not blow cold for long.

Nissan blower motor problems

My 300ZX was equipped with Nissan’s continuously variable airflow control. This means that there were more settings than just medium-low and high. And the system was actually quite complicated. There was a fan control amplifier which utilized a series of transistor-based circuits that continuously controlled the airflow blown out by the blower.

image of Nissan evaporator air flow

Blower motor pushing air through evaporator

This allowed for a selection of infinitely variable airflow rates. The fan control amplifier is housed in the blower motor case itself. There is a heat sink radiating plate mounted on the amplifier assembly and it is placed in the airflow of the blower motor to provide cooling to the transistors to prevent electrical heat failure.

When my 300ZX reached about 12 years old I started experiencing intermittent airflow operation and I could hear the blower motor kicking on and off. When I pulled out the fan control amplifier I didn’t see any melting or actually any problems but it was the culprit and needed to be replaced. I got the replacement part from the junkyard and never had any other blower motor problems with the car.

Nissan AC problems

I did have 300ZX air-conditioning problems that were not a Freon related issues. At first I thought it was, because the problem was the air would start off cold and then get warmer the longer you used the AC system. This is a typical symptom of an evaporator freezing up. One day I ran the air-conditioner until it started to warm up and I pulled the evaporator cover off to find a solid block of ice.

It’s funny that when the evaporator is frozen solid into a block of ice that the air actually gets warmer. But it is true because the airflow through the cooling fins is reduced and diverted around the evaporator assembly instead of flowing through it.

image of Nissan AC expansion valve

Nissan AC expansion valve

On a 300ZX air-conditioning system the compressor cycles on and off to maintain the proper evaporator temperature. When the evaporator temperature falls below a specific point the Thermo control amplifier interrupts the compressor operation by disconnecting power. When the evaporator temperature rises above the specification power is restored to the compressor.

The late 80′s Nissan 3 L V-6 air-conditioning system uses an expansion valve with a capillary tube that provides the temperature input from the evaporator. On my 300ZX the capillary tube leads to a bulb on the end that attaches via a clip to the evaporator fins. I’m not sure how it happened but it became detached and was just laying in the evaporator case and was not providing the proper input temperature. I cleaned the temperature bulb and reattached it to the evaporator fins and the problem was solved.

On this auto repair information blog I have written a lot about my 300ZX and the repairs that were needed. This was one of my favorite cars but also required the most work out of any automobile I had ever owned. It was also my first Nissan so it taught me a few lessons about Japanese cars. I have also written many air-conditioning articles and you can head back to the main page and see the latest auto repair blog posts.

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6 Responses to “300ZX Air-Conditioning Problems”
  1. Mark says:

    Clarence: The old 300zx has 2 plastic doors that are weatherstripped (to make a good seal) that control the temperature and flow of air. The blend door controls which vents the air exits from ie dash, floor or windshield. The tempeture door controls if the air goes through the heater core or the evaporator on ac mode. Most often I see problems with the vacuum signal that operates the system. But as these cars get older I have also seen problems with the doors themselves binding and not sealing.

  2. Clarence says:

    Hello,

    I have an 88 300zx non-turbo, and I’m having problems with my ac as well. Whenever I turn on the ac, I’m only getting air out of my vents right under the dash used to defrost my windshield. Front vents and floor vents are barely pushing anything out, and everything is only pushing out heat. When driving down the interstate, hot air still flows through the vents. Just curious to see if you have any diagnosis or answers to why I’m only getting hot air.

  3. Mark says:

    Sorry Carl: Not sure if the 86 300zx had a vacuum climate control system or electronic. It does sound like a blend door problem and if it is vacuum operated it is most likely a leaking or deteriorated hose. The blend door is spring loaded to default in the defroster position.

  4. Carl 86 300zx says:

    Mark,
    My 86 300 has a problem with the A/C air coming out the Defrost duct, then when I select Econ it blows a little out the regular or A/C vents. Have seen this problem ?

    Burning up in Texas
    Carl

  5. Mark says:

    Joy: If the system has not been converted to r134 it could cost a couple of hundred dollars to properly convert and charge the system. If it has already been converted then a charge and basic diagnosis should be under 100 bucks. The thing is that with the age of the vehicle and the AC not operating more things can be wrong and discovered when they go to charge it. I wrote an article about AC conversion you can see it here: http://www.youfixcars.com/retrofitting-air-conditioning.html

  6. joy says:

    Hi mark

    I’m about to purchase a 300zx 1989 model. The air-con needs to be re-gassed, approx what would the damage be to do this $ wise?

    Kind regards
    Joy Allen

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