Bailing out the big three has been discussed heavily on the Internet. I seem to have a completely different view on the topic. Possibly due to my position in the auto repair business.

So please forgive this sidebar from the water for gas posts, but I would like to express my side of the story.

Big three bailout full disclosure, I should notify everyone that my skewed opinion might be due to my position as a senior fleet service technician. I work for a large local government fleet operation that purchases Dodge, Ford and Chevrolet light trucks and cars.

The vehicles that we purchase are paid for in full using taxpayer money. As an example in 2009 we are scheduled to replace 2,200 vehicles.

As with most United States Government fleet operations the rule of thumb is to buy American. If the big three were to collapse, then this would not be possible. I cannot imagine taking taxpayer money to buy Nissan and Toyota trucks.

It is true that some of these vehicles are manufactured in the United States. But the profits from the sales of these vehicles go straight back to Japan.

I do not think that the American taxpayer would enjoy directly funding a foreign economy. I’m not sure what the numbers are, but I would figure that a large percentage of sales for the big three come from publicly owned fleets.

Quality of the big three products

For the last three years I have worked on the 2,200 vehicles that we are scheduled to replace. We have had zero engine failures, and only minor problems with these vehicles during their three years and 100,000 miles of exemplary service. In my opinion, the quality level of the products coming out of Detroit has increased tremendously. Unfortunately in the mind of the American car buyer they are still holding a grudge against the poor products produced in the 1980s.

Especially when it comes to light trucks, American quality and even fuel economy competes with the largest and top rated foreign car manufacturing. We have a 2003 Chevrolet Silverado that is still getting 20 miles per gallon on average. A coworker with a 2004, Nissan pickup truck is averaging around 13 miles per gallon.

Terms of the big three bailout

Big Three Bailout Image

After the most recent meeting between the big three and the big wheels in Washington. It looks like some assistance will be rendered to the American car manufacturing industry. Our County has now mobilized to try to push through the cash purchase of our replacement vehicles to the first quarter of 2009 in an attempt to help bolster sales.

One of the senators had mentioned that the carmaker has proposed some good changes to help them make the manufacturers more profitable. Also with the recent concessions from the United auto workers to help stabilize the American vehicle manufacturing industry.

There may be some great hope for the future. But this senator also made a good second point about the bail out and the plan submitted. The big three included no incentive to car buyers to bring them back to the US-made cars.

This was a tremendous point that needs to be addressed. If we bailout the big three and they streamlined their business to build and produce quality vehicles at a fair price. It will have no effect unless buyers return to the showrooms.

My suggestion is to use some of these bailout funds as a direct tax credit to Americans that purchase American cars. Stimulate sales by stimulating the consumer to purchase directly from the big three.

This is just my opinion. And I would like to hear what you think. Please leave a comment.

My next post will return to the water for gas subject and I will be posting more pictures from the HHO convention that I attended in South Florida. So give this website a bookmark and return to see more pictures and information about my water for gas project.

water4gas hho games and expo

The turnout to the event was fairly light due to the recent falling of fuel prices. There were about 1500 people in attendance. Everybody I spoke with agreed that this recent pullback in gas prices is more than likely a temporary situation. This is the main reason that the event continued as planned.

Summer Smith Bay News 9

The water4gas convention was held at the Manatee County public Fairgrounds in Palmetto Florida. This was extremely convenient for me because I live only about a half hour south of this location.

It was also great to see our county commissioners attend the event, along with Bay news nine Summer Smith. She is standing with her cammera man in front of an hho powered jet dragster.

Water for gas inventor

To me the highlight of the day was a short conversation with the water for gas founder Ozzie Freedom. There is no question that Ozzie is dedicated to improving the on-demand hydrogen systems. Mr. freedom drove his water for gas powered Volkswagen Jetta from California to southern Florida to attend this event. Ozzy’s Jetta is a rolling advertisement for his website.

Water4Gas Jetta

The interesting thing is the side of his car says that he gets 60 miles per gallon with this vehicle. During our short conversation when he showed me his improved system. He stated that his trip from California yielded 73 miles per gallon. So he sold himself short, when he put 60 mpg on the side of his car. Keep in mind that this Jetta is diesel powered and gets close to 48 miles per gallon without any improvements installed.

As a member of the water 4 gas website. I asked Ozzie about the recent improvements to the members area. He stated that this was just the beginning and that all members should expect a completely revamped website, along with a new HHO forum as well as a certified marketplace to purchase either a complete water4gas kit or individual components.

You can visit Ozzy’s new water for gas website here. Also continue on to read the rest of this post to see more pictures from the hho games.

My Water4gas System

I was hanging out with my Blazer and talking to people who were interested in the test system I have installed. Some of the visitors pointed out that I should take a look at some of the advanced systems that were being displayed throughout the fair. So I locked up my truck and I took a walk with my digital camera.

Using Water 4 Gas

There are some amazing hho generating systems available on the marketplace today. Some of these systems are high tech and capable of producing large amounts of hydrogen fuel to be mixed with your air intake charge. Looking at these systems it’s hard not to believe that large increases in fuel economy are very possible.

Large hho generator

In fact, there was an H2 Hummer with a giant hydrogen generator installed. The owner of vehicle states that he receives 70 miles per gallon on the highway. This would be extremely hard to believe unless you saw the way the system was installed.

The drawback to his on demand hydrogen system that is pulse width modulated, Is that the cost of the complete kit ready to install was over $1500. Just as interesting as this high tech system I saw several basic water for gas six-pack systems. This is where you connect six standard size hydrogen generators together in series and collect the hydrogen gas produced to be fed into your air intake system.

Hydrogen generators

The gentleman I spoke with, that had a nice compact six-pack generator installed stated he doubled his miles per gallon on his 1994 Saturn, which is now receiving just shy of 50 miles per gallon. He has less than $200 dollars invested in parts.

The water for gas exposition was very exciting. And I took lots of pictures. I will be posting more stories and images from the water for gas convention so stop back and visit me soon. Or you can visit the inventor of the water for gas movement website right here.

Ozzies water4gas setup

Lets keep the conversation going. Leave your comments and thoughts both positive and negative at the bottom of this post. Maybe our resident chemist Bob will stop by to rejoin the water4gas debate.

I am glad I revisited the members area, because it really has grown fantastically. When you first purchase the product you’re taken to a download page that also provides links to all of the other features that the water4gas website provides for its users. Let me give you some examples.

The VIP lounge is basically like a site map for what is available to the community. It also provides a list of vendors and electronic stores that have been used by the community with good results. Basically the links in the VIP lounge are websites that deliver what they promise for fair pricing. I also liked the tax credit links and am looking forward to the look on my accountants face when I ask him to submit the supplied forms.

Also provided at the top of this list is a link to the water for gas forums. I spent a couple of hours going through the different threads and posts to this forum and found it very motivational and helpful. There are lots of individuals discussing their successes and failures with their specific model vehicles. And this can be very helpful to people with the same common vehicle. If your still stumped they provide a help desk that I have not used.

Water 4 gas what else is inside?

The frequently asked questions area is a must visit. It answered every question I have ever been asked about the system. Some examples are: You can add washer fluid to prevent freezing, how to charge the water, why and how to mix the baking soda and I could go on and on.

The water4gas marketplace is only accessible to people who have purchased the program. The market place contains high and low quality kits that are completely built, tested and ready to go. These complete kits range from $90 all the way up to $300. But it is nice to have the option to go ahead and purchase these items to push your project along quicker. I’ve had a lot of visitors to my blog that have purchased systems without buying the books and cannot understand why their system is not getting the results claimed.

The reason being is that they never purchase the books and do not understand how the system works. In most cases they have installed the hydrogen bubbler, but not the O2 sensor or map sensor enhancers. If you do this you will only get modest gains if any at all.

I am guilty of this same procedure. I installed the electrolyzer and tank plus the fuel heater, but not the sensor enhancers. I have received modest results because of this. I am seriously considering purchasing the ready-made sensor enhancers from the water for gas marketplace. This is mainly due to time constraints to build my own devices using the instructions and parts lists provided in the books.

Over the last seven months I have had a love-hate relationship with my water for gas system. But after seeing the improvements to the water for gas membership website, I have a new motivation to push forward with my system. I know one thing for sure gas prices will not be going down. And there are even talks about
five dollars a gallon in the United States. This is further motivation to continue with the project.

To sum it up: The water for gas website has come a long way and has become a community driven open source project that I am proud to be a part of. I see a lot of people insisting that the system doesn’t work. Yet they refuse to try it because they are smarter than everyone else. You will get out of the system what
you put in and you will get nothing if you don’t take action.

Yes, I’m going to put a link to the water for gas website Here. Yes it is an affiliate link, and I will receive a small commission if you purchase it. I will use the funds to reinvest into my system and report the findings, pay for hosting fees and parts supplies.

If you want to purchase the water for gas system without supporting my effort that is fine by me. Just go to the address bar and type in the website address directly, which I’m sure you know by now, press enter and you will have cut me out of the loop. Or visit the website from this link.