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		<title>Water For Gas Problems</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have received a lot of e-mail, and some great responses from my posts about the problems with the water for gas system. I have received many comments from highly educated experts in the chemistry field. I would like to thank these individuals for reading my posts and taking the time to provide their opinion [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have received a lot of e-mail, and some great responses from my posts about the problems with the water for gas system. I have received many comments from highly educated experts in the chemistry field. I would like to thank these individuals for reading my posts and taking the time to provide their opinion on the <em>water for gas system</em>.</p>
<p>I would like to address two areas of the water for gas package in today&#8217;s Post. First I would like to talk briefly about the main part or component of the water for gas system. This is known as the hydrogen generator, and by far, has the most controversy surrounding it.</p>
<p>The <strong>hydrogen generator</strong> uses an electrolyzer to release the hydrogen from the distilled water and baking soda mixture. It seems that most educated people feel that this system is not worth the time to build. In fact, the chemists quoted units of energy used as opposed to units of energy created. While I am not a chemist, and I do respect their research on the subject, the electrolyzer seems to be the main reason that these chemists feel the <span id="more-31"></span>system is inefficient.</p>
<h3>Water4gas test</h3>
<p><img src="http://www.auto-facts.org/images/water4gasscamjar.jpg" border="1" alt="water for gas problems" hspace="6" vspace="1" width="79" height="188" align="left" />I did a quick multi meter test this morning and found that the electrolyzer draws less amps and voltage than the headlight system on my wife’s Toyota. A few of the responses stated that the electrolyzer pulled more energy from the alternator, which is driven by the gas engine. I will have to respectfully disagree due to this simple test with my meter.</p>
<p>Some of the comments stated that the electrolyzer puts more of a drain on the electrical system causing the alternator to work harder and therefore burn more fuel. Again, I respectfully disagree. I have never noticed a difference in my fuel economy when turning on my headlights, which causes the same condition as the hydrogen generator.</p>
<h4>The water for gas system</h4>
<p><img src="http://water4gas.com/images/p389sml.jpg" border="1" alt="water4gas answers" hspace="6" vspace="1" width="239" height="175" align="left" />The water for gas system includes many other helpful ways to increase fuel economy that have absolutely nothing to do with a hydrogen generator. My favorite ingenious idea, included in this package was the fuel heating system. I have seen absolutely no comments or response to this part of the water for gas package.</p>
<p>The fuel heater uses heat generated from the engines cooling system. This makes great use of an unused byproduct of engine combustion. The theory is that if you purchase the fuel cold from in ground tanks in a condensed state, and then heat the fuel to expand the molecules before combustion, you are getting the most bang for your gas dollar.</p>
<p><img src="http://water4gas.com/images/booksample14.jpg" border="1" alt="water4gas samples" hspace="6" vspace="1" width="158" height="126" align="left" />The water4gas system also has plans to build oxygen sensor, mass airflow sensor, and manifold absolute pressure sensor enhancers. I have to be honest with you and tell you that I have not gotten to this section of the program yet and have not built or worked with these sensor-enhancing systems.</p>
<p>I have reviewed the theory behind them and must say that I am impressed with what I have read so far. These three sensors help the computer decide the length of injector on time. And to make a long story short, the less the injector is turned on, the better your fuel economy will be.</p>
<h4>Addressing water for gas problems</h4>
<p>Also in my comments section they mentioned that distilled water and baking soda could be expensive. This is another section that is addressed in the water4gas manuals. I do not want to be the mighty defender of the water for gas system, but as a purchaser of the product, I feel that sometimes it is misrepresented in comments and on message boards.</p>
<p>I repeat the <span style="color: #ff0000;">water for gas system has problems</span>, as indicated by my two previous posts you will find below. But even if you find fault with the hydrogen generator the water 4 gas package supplies other ways to increase your fuel economy. I would like for the chemists that commented to actually purchase the entire product and review the 300 or more pages of ideas and techniques.</p>
<p>Again, I mean no disrespect to the people who are obviously smarter than me, As far as the scientific end of the equation. But we are discussing an automotive application to increase fuel economy. I am a certified master technician that is also ASE certified in alternative fuels. The water for gas collection of fantastic ideas to increase your fuel economy is a worthwhile product.</p>
<h4>Water4gas is not a snap your fingers product!</h4>
<p>Another problem with the water for gas system is that it&#8217;s depth of information can take a lot of man-hours to reach its full potential. The idea is to review a section and then apply those ideas and fine tune/test results from any modifications before moving on to the next section.</p>
<p>If you put effort into this system your reward will be increased fuel economy. In fact, I am starting to believe that the claims of doubling your gas mileage can be achieved, if enough effort is invested. This system is not for everybody because of this effort that is required to achieve maximum results. But if you ask me it is still worth taking a look at. You can view videos and testimonials, plus also view free sample pages of the water for gas system by <a title="Water4gas Website" href="http://diffbiz1.water4gas.hop.clickbank.net/">clicking here</a>.</p>
<p>I do invite your comments and appreciate your time and effort discussing this extremely important topic of <em>increasing your fuel economy</em>. If you are chemist, I would like to see you purchase the system and investigate the other features besides the hydrogen generator further. The e-books have a 100% money back guarantee, so you can review it and then return it if you feel it is worthless.</p>
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		<title>Water for gas scam part two</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t want this to become water for gas blog, but my post from last week has brought a lot of e-mail questions and a few comments that I would like to answer. You can read last week&#8217;s post for more information about the problems with water4gas. Is water for gas a scam? The answer [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.runyourcarwithwater.com/gas_prices.jpg" border="1" alt="gas prices images" hspace="6" vspace="1" width="109" height="80" align="left" />I don&#8217;t want this to become <em>water for gas blog</em>, but my post from last week has brought a lot of e-mail questions and a few comments that I would like to answer. You can read last week&#8217;s post for more information about the <a title="Water for gas problems" href="http://www.certifiedmastertech.com/wordpress/2008/04/13/water-for-gas-scam/">problems with water4gas</a>.</p>
<h2>Is water for gas a scam?</h2>
<p>The answer to this question depends on how you use your vehicle, and also what kind of vehicle you have. Without writing my own book about the subject, what it boils down to is if you have a four-cylinder car and have long highway commutes, this system is ideal for your application.</p>
<p>If you have a V-8 muscle car and do a lot of city driving than this system is not for you at all. Let me explain the above statement a little further. The <strong>water for gas system</strong> has an on/off switch and does not regulate the hydrogen fuel as related to throttle position or speed. The system operates best when the vehicle is operating at UN interrupted highway speeds. When the vehicle is at a stoplight or an idle condition you&#8217;re supposed to reach over and turn off the hydrogen generator.</p>
<p>So if you were in city traffic are getting stopped at multiple traffic lights. You would constantly be reaching over to turn on and off the water for gas system.</p>
<h3>Water for gas problem</h3>
<p>Next I will address why the water4gas system works better on a four-cylinder engine. The container recommended for <span id="more-30"></span>the base system produces a small amount of hydrogen brown gas. On a four-cylinder engine, less fuel is required overall and the amount of generated hydrogen complements this operation and will provide a noticeable increase in fuel economy. With a V8 engine you will need multiple tanks and generators to achieve the same results.</p>
<p><img src="http://water4gas.com/images/booksample04.jpg" border="1" alt="water for gas picture" hspace="6" vspace="1" width="208" height="177" align="left" />Another added benefit of using the system on a four-cylinder engine is that there is plenty of room to mount the hydrogen generator and run the wiring and tubing that is necessary to deliver the gas. I have heard a few complaints of people with V-6 and V-8 engines that they are having troubles finding a place to locate the water for gas system. In fact many people with these larger engines have decided to either remote mount the battery and use that area to mount the water4gas system or remote mount the system in the trunk, which will then require long lengths of tubing and wiring to make it work.</p>
<h4>Water for gas review</h4>
<p>I know it&#8217;s hard to believe that something like this works, but the fact of the matter is that it does work excellent for certain applications. Also note that this system is hand built and may require some tweaking to get it to perform to its best ability. If you are not a do-it-yourself kind of person there are pre-built systems that are ready to install, but will still require time, energy and knowledge to install.</p>
<p>Even if you buy a pre-built <em>water for gas system</em>, you still need to purchase the books that explain the theory and operation of the system so that you can achieve the best results from your efforts.</p>
<p>The water for gas system is not a snap your fingers solution. But with the rising cost of fuel and ever worsening economy it sure seems like it is worth the effort. If you have a four-cylinder vehicle and do a fair amount of highway driving the returns for your time and money invested in the system should be realized with in a couple of months.</p>
<p>I was notified that a new website has secured the resale rights for the system and offers it at half the price. See what other people are saying about the water for gas system on the new <a title="Run your car on water" href="http://diffbiz1.centemax.hop.clickbank.net/">run car on water website</a>. You can also view two videos showing the system in action on my <a title="water for gas videos" href="http://www.auto-facts.org/water4gas-scam.html">is water for gas a scam</a> report page.</p>
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		<title>Water for gas scam?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is water for gas a scam? The hottest debate in my automotive niche that I have ever seen is about the new water for gas product. With gas prices reaching record highs and digging deeply into everybody&#8217;s pocket, Naturally people are looking for answers. When the necessary task of driving up and back to work [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong>Is water for gas a scam?</strong> The hottest debate in my automotive niche that I have ever seen is about the new water for gas product. With gas prices reaching record highs and digging deeply into everybody&#8217;s pocket, Naturally people are looking for answers. When the necessary task of driving up and back to work costs 15-30% of what you will make that day, People are willing to take a chance on things that may seem far-fetched.</p>
<h2><strong>Enter the water for gas scam</strong></h2>
<p>This product seems to take advantage of the current skyrocketing fuel prices and offers people the solutions to what they need most, which is better fuel economy. Me being a certified mechanic, and also suffering from high fuel prices, I couldn&#8217;t help but be curious about the water for gas system. So I purchased it!</p>
<p>Not only am I a certified mechanic, but I am also certified in alternative fuels. The water for gas product includes two e-books that explain how the system works and hooks you up with places to buy the parts to build your own on-demand hydrogen gas system. Yes I do believe that the books were well written and a lot of effort was put into creating them.</p>
<p>The <span style="color: #ff0000;">system has a few problems</span>, which I will discuss. I have collected the necessary parts and started to build my own system. The first thing I discovered is that <span id="more-29"></span>the system will actually work and can improve fuel economy. But since most of you have come to this page to <span style="color: #ff0000;">find out the bad news</span> I will focus more on that subject.</p>
<h3><strong>Water for gas problems</strong></h3>
<p><img src="http://www.auto-facts.org/images/water4gasscamjar.jpg" border="1" alt="water for gas images" hspace="6" vspace="1" width="160" height="392" align="left" />The first problem is the production of hydrogen gas in the small container that is recommended will only help improve fuel economy, a small amount. The system is limited by the size of the container and the amount of hydrogen gas produced. On a four-cylinder engine, you will see in my estimate about a 20% increase in fuel economy on long commutes. But to achieve the 50% increase as advertised either a larger container or multiple containers will be needed.</p>
<p>The water for gas system includes a few other innovative ideas. That coupled with the hydrogen system will improve fuel economy even further. An example is the fuel heater system that is recommended in the books. I&#8217;m a strong believer in this fuel heating system because it takes the fuel and expands the molecules before it enters the combustion chamber.</p>
<p>Another problem with the <em>water for gas system</em> is that it produces the same amount of hydrogen at idle, as it does at highway speeds. This is why the system includes an on off toggle switch. If you are driving down the highway, you can leave the switch in the on position and the system will operate very efficiently. If you get stuck in traffic your engine will be idling and hydrogen gas will be produced at the same rate as if you were traveling at highway speeds. This will cause the engine to run rich, idle poorly and eventually stall, If the system is left on while idling too long. So basically, you are supposed to reach over and turn off the system, if you are stuck in a traffic jam our plan on idling for more than a minute.</p>
<h4><strong>Water for gas summary</strong></h4>
<p>The system does work, but does have problems that may not be made clear on the main websites sales letter. If you are the kind of person that has a long highway commute this system will help you! If you do a lot of city driving in stop and go traffic You are probably best off passing on this offer.</p>
<p>I have a more in-depth report about the <a title="Water for gas review" href="http://www.auto-facts.org/water4gas-scam.html">water for gas scam</a> on my website. Or you can go directly to their website and see <span style="color: #ff0000;">testimonials</span> and <span style="color: #ff0000;">videos</span> for yourself by <a title="Water 4 Gas Website" href="http://diffbiz1.water4gas.hop.clickbank.net/">Clicking Here</a>.</p>
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