Water To Gas Troubles
I have the water 2 gas fuel heaters and my test hydrogen generating system installed on my 04 Blazer with a 4.3 L V-6. I have run my vehicle for the last four weeks and have some results to share with you. This water to gas post includes a progress update at the end and an explanation at the beginning.
Talking about water to gas can cause troubles. I have not posted to this blog in a little over a month. It is not because I didn’t have anything to say it’s because this blogs recent high traffic has also brought with it some problems.
Water to gas blogger is threatened
As you may know when you start a website your information is available publicly. Unless you pay extra to have this information hidden. I didn’t think that it was necessary, because I have no reason to hide from anyone. Well it is too late now but maybe I should have paid the extra money to keep my contact information private.
I received a series of calls threatening violence to my family and me if I did not remove this blog from the Internet. The callers claimed that they were trying to save the world from the water to gas products that have emerged. But in reality they were selling the water for gas stuff on their own website and my blog was getting in their way.
If there is one thing I value is my right to free speech! I did not remove my blog and continued to approve comments that were both for the water to gas products, and also the comments that were against the theory of hydrogen generation and products. Just because someone does not believe in the water to gas system does not give me the right to silence his or her opinion. Therefore if you look through the comments section on each of the posts that follow you will find opinions both for and against what I believe in.
Water to gas blog spammed
In my attempt to approve the negative and positive comments and keep on track of my belief in the freedom of speech this blog was spammed with thousands of fake comments. So instead of posting updates to this water 2 gas blog like I would prefer, I was sorting through and approving the genuine comments from the Spam. I want to thank all the people that stopped by to visit and took the time to write genuine comments about this highly contested subject.
Water to gas update
Yes, I have the fuel heater, and the water to gas hydrogen on demand system installed on my 04 blazer that has a fuel sucking vortec 4.3 L V-6. I have run my vehicle for the last four weeks and will now share some results with you.
First of all I had bought this truck Brand new in 04 and have run it in varying conditions for the last four years. This suv has received 15 miles per gallon in the city, and only 16 miles per gallon on the highway. I do not know why the fuel economy is so poor from this small V-6 truck. But I know other people with this vehicle and their results are the same.
The window sticker that came with the vehicle stated 17 miles per gallon highway. So my results are in line with what the vehicle is supposed to receive for fuel economy. With the water to gas hydrogen bubbler and the fuel heater installed. I have received 18 miles per gallon city and a recent trip to Fort Myers has yielded 21 miles per gallon on the highway.
I am quite impressed with these results. I also believe that there is more room for improvement. My next purchase will be an oxygen sensor enhancer and test the operation of this device.
The water for gas website includes access to a marketplace area where you can buy these devices already built. I plan on visiting the water for gas marketplace and purchasing one of these pre built devices. I will continue to approve your water to gas comments and keep you updated on further results.
Tags: hho, water to gas, water4gas, water4gas reviews
August 12th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Keep up the good work. Believe it or not I own an 01 Mustang GT and sticker says 19 city and 25 hwy. With pvc enhancer and MAP\MAF sensor enhancer I got it up to 32 HWY! not yet installed HHO bottles and neither am I going to continue without it. just don’t know what it will do to the car with out them. Car runs lean with the MAF enhancer.
August 24th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Question for any who have this installed for long periods of time. I have not purchased these books, still thinking about it. What are the long term effects that these systems have on the engine and components ? Also to emissions? I live in Ontario Canada and have to do Drive Clean Tests every 2 years, has anyone, or does the webiste talk about emissions ? Also, I was talking to a friend, who was talking to a friend sort of deal and mentioned that some of the by products of “a similiar sounding” systems were corrosive components which might damage the engine or engine components such as sensors or exhaust - any comments ?
Thanks for your response in advance. A really interesting system.
August 25th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
I have had a water to gas type system installed on my Chevy blazer for a couple of months. I do not expect any long term ill effects. The only thing I have noticed is more water in the exhaust than usual. Although I might be paranoid on this. Water in exhaust systems will always happen to some extent do to the temperature differential.
This is why they have condensation drains in exhaust systems. Also most modern day exhaust systems are stainless and very durable. As for the emissions level I have not tested it yet but I would expect either no change or a reduction in emissions.
Also remember that you can turn off the system when you run through for your emissions testing.
August 25th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
I am an old mechanic. I have just found out about this water for gas stuff but i cant fined out how to try it with out buying it first but be fore i pay for this information i want to no that it works can you help me out just a littel then i can probaley figure the rest out.
thank you
Derold Fellmeth
August 26th, 2008 at 10:06 am
I have contemplated installing something like this on my Chevy. I am curious to see how you feel about the decision. Are you happy with the results you have achieved or would you recommend waiting?
August 26th, 2008 at 10:11 am
The Water for Gas systems DO work. I’ve been running mine for 3 months now with no problems at all. Actually, it seems to run even smooother than before. I really think this is going to evolve into the new standard in vehicles.
August 27th, 2008 at 7:36 am
My concern with this is that now we’ll have to buy water, use up all the resources that we need for daily life! Of course, we “need” gasoline for daily life but it’s not the same. There are already water disputes even in the rainy, humid southeast; I’m in the desert west.
Somewhere I read that emissions would be cleaner with this than with gasoline, don’t know how true it is.
People keep talking about the mpg but it’s not much of an improvement, I suppose the point is that it’s the same for much cheaper as well as less polluting.
August 28th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
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To meet the goal of doubling the 1974 passenger car fuel economy average by 1985 (to 27. 5 mpg), Congress set fuel economy standards for some of the intervening years. Passenger car standards were established for MY 1978 (18 mpg); MY 1979 (19 mpg); MY …
September 2nd, 2008 at 10:29 am
I hooked up a watergas unit in my 2000 Durango
Without tweaking the computer mileage went from 12 in city to 14.9
19.50 hwy to 22.3 highway
say what you will when installed properly it works!!
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:17 am
Government and long term effects? Does the steam and water in the exhaust, produced by the burning of hydrogen, slowly destroy the catalytic converter? I am also interested to know if anyone has put their vehicle through an government mandated emmissions test. I live in California and every vehicle is required to be “smog” tested every 2 years. That includes a visual as well as a computer analysis of the exhaust at idle and road speed. Has anyone been dinged for altering or modifying their vehicle? I do realize the hydrogen can clean the emissions up and the computer may see this and flag the test. As an electrical engineer and physicist, I am making my own unit for about $60 and figure about 3 to 4 hours of labor to build and install. As I was looking at my parts in my garage, I began to wonder about these two issues. I appreciate this blog.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Oh my God, that’s just crazy. Keep up you blog, please. Don’t let anyone silence you. I can’t believe that someone has found your blog to be that much of a threat.
Yes, it pays to hide your private info. On a couple of my websites, I do.
Can’t have crazies walking right up to your door!
September 28th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
From what I’ve seen and read, the systems do produce HHO gas (a very flamable - read - EXPLOSIVE mixture). Dangerous stuff — but controllable. Gasoline is dangerous too, and we carry around gallons of the stuff without a second thought.
HHO gas does appear to improve combustion characteristics, increase octane rating, improve engine performance, horspower, torque, throttle response, fuel mileage. There are a few people out there who are doing serious testing and publishing real numbers that appear to be promising. There is also a bunch of junk published— this is the Internet— take it for what it is.
If you’re going to install a HHO system:
(1) Be careful. You’re dealing with corrosive electrolytes, electricity (low voltage but potentially high amperage), and an EXPLOSIVE end product.
(2) Use quality materials that will hold up to the corrosive environment to which they are exposed (such as 316L stainless steel).
(3) Control electrolyte heat and electrical current flow (amperage) by adjusting the concentration of electrolyte in your solution. (VERY IMPORTANT!)
(4) Install a power modulating circuit in the HHO power supply system.
(5) Above all, be careful and stay SAFE. HHO gas production for automotive use is EXPERIMENTAL. You will be building and installing this system at your own risk. No one is going to accept responsibility for your negligence — including me as I post to this blog.
This HHO gas injection looks like viable science. Do it! Promote it!—but be SAFE.
September 28th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
And:
Do not, ever, under NO CIRCUMSTANCE, make ANY electrical connections that will be exposed to HHO gas that might, even remotely, have the possibility of becoming loose and causing a stray spark. That means that there will be NO connections inside the HHO generator that are held together with nuts, bolts, washers—you name it—that could eventually corrode, loosen, and become a POTENTIAL source for sparks. Make all electrical connections OUTSIDE of the gas generator.
Remember, you are dealing with corrosive electrolytes and HIGHLY FLAMABLE gas with a very rapid rate of combustion (EXPLOSIVE). Route all HHO lines away from heat sources and make sure all tubings fit securely. Do it, but BE CAREFUL.
September 29th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
And:
HHO gas production also generates a hazardous by-product: hexavalent chromium — it’s in the electrolyte solution. This chemical is a known carcinogen (and not just in the state of California). It’s bad stuff!
What do do:
(1) Wear protective clothing (latex gloves, face shields) when cleaning or changing out used electrolyte solutions. Make every effort to avoid exposure to this known carcinogen.
(2) Do NOT dump used solutions on the ground.
(3) The small volumes of used solutions that the typical “experimenter” will encounter can generally be easily stored in a plastic milk jug or two. Many municipalities provide opportunities for free annual or semi-annual delivery of toxic waste materials to the landfill or recycling center. Take advantage of those opportunities to dispose of your stored waste byproducts.
Don’t just be safe for yourself, but also be a moral and environmentlally safe, responsible citizen of God’s green world.
October 16th, 2008 at 5:26 am
to Leslie,
Thanks for your input on hexavalent chromium > I have been throwing away all of my used water stuff just anywhere I could thick of… I am still experimenting with this system. I already made 4 improvised HHO generator out of Lady’s Choice Mayo jars just for curiosity. I bought the stainless wire from a fisherman store. I still lack some of the safety gadgets… like the plastic check valves .. is it ok to use plastic check valves supplied from an acquarium store, or I was also thinking of the check valve from a stesthoscope… I am from the Leyte, Philippines, its hard to find some of the materials here… I have not bought the e- book. I really cannot afford it. Im using our company’s internet. at least its free. tnx in advance…
November 24th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
To the DoubtingThomases; have you never seen water dripping from the tailpipe tip on any car equipped with emission controls, including catalytic converters? They are made from stainless steel to minimize possible water damage. Build your system with a seperate power switch and shut the system off a couple minutes before you shut down your engine to burn the residual HHO production. I know I’m dating myself, but this concept was in use in the 1950s. Those systems were simpler, in that they did not use electricity, just plain old evaporation, so they weren’t as efficient. All you needed was a piece of vacuum hose and a water jug, preferrably plastic, and some water. They didn’t damage vehicles, but they did work, especially at higher elevations. I know, as I was a mechanic then, and worked on a number of vehicles that had the system installed. Have you never noticed your car has more power and produces better mileage on high humidity and rainy days? HHO is a natural system, simply enhanced with modern technology.