Comments on: Water To Gas Troubles

By: Joe

Joe — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:52:19 +0000

This is for everyone who has experimented with water4gas for a while. Any long term effects for using the system? I had it installed for like a year. Saved hundreds maybe even a couple thousand in gas on my 04 Pacifica AWD. estimated mpg hwy was 18mpg and i was doing 35mpg on 4-hour trips.

Components I had installed were 1 water jar, MAP enhancer, and PCV enhancer. a short while back the EGR valve got busted. I was worried it was something more serious cause of the loud noise while driving.

Shortly after that the Check Engine light kept coming on. I found out it was multiple cylinder misfires. had the sparkplugs changed and one had no gap, it was completely shut. problem solved for a few days then it came back even worse than before.

Seems the piston is hitting the sparkplug because the sparkplug is severely damaged. Not only was there no gap, but the tip got pounded so far down that it shattered the bone part or ceramic whatever it is. those were the standard plugs so i changed them to the premium which are shorter.

I thought that would do it but now the cylinder misfires are back and are quite frequent. Anyone experience anything like this? Or does anyone know why this is happening cause my mechanic has no idea.

By: Van Lease

Van Lease — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:53:42 +0000

Water4Gas offers informational products presented to you as EXPERIMENTAL proof-of-concept INFORMATION only.

By: Dale

Dale — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:19:37 +0000

Hi. I am hoping for some help. I bought the water4gas manual and built the two jar system.what I dont understand is the 12 volt set up.how can 12 volts go through the wire when there is only one wire to the wire around the tower??will the water in the jar make the connection?? would some one who has built one that works send me a wiring diagram for the 12 volts. keep it simple please. I want to try this on my v6 toyota MH which gets poor mpg. thank you.. Dale

By: James Jordan

James Jordan — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:17:35 +0000

To the DoubtingThomases; have you never seen water dripping from the tailpipe tip on any car equipped with emission controls, including catalytic converters? They are made from stainless steel to minimize possible water damage. Build your system with a seperate power switch and shut the system off a couple minutes before you shut down your engine to burn the residual HHO production. I know I’m dating myself, but this concept was in use in the 1950s. Those systems were simpler, in that they did not use electricity, just plain old evaporation, so they weren’t as efficient. All you needed was a piece of vacuum hose and a water jug, preferrably plastic, and some water. They didn’t damage vehicles, but they did work, especially at higher elevations. I know, as I was a mechanic then, and worked on a number of vehicles that had the system installed. Have you never noticed your car has more power and produces better mileage on high humidity and rainy days? HHO is a natural system, simply enhanced with modern technology.

By: joloy

joloy — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:26:39 +0000

to Leslie,
Thanks for your input on hexavalent chromium > I have been throwing away all of my used water stuff just anywhere I could thick of… I am still experimenting with this system. I already made 4 improvised HHO generator out of Lady’s Choice Mayo jars just for curiosity. I bought the stainless wire from a fisherman store. I still lack some of the safety gadgets… like the plastic check valves .. is it ok to use plastic check valves supplied from an acquarium store, or I was also thinking of the check valve from a stesthoscope… I am from the Leyte, Philippines, its hard to find some of the materials here… I have not bought the e- book. I really cannot afford it. Im using our company’s internet. at least its free. tnx in advance…

By: Leslie

Leslie — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:56:05 +0000

And:

HHO gas production also generates a hazardous by-product: hexavalent chromium — it’s in the electrolyte solution. This chemical is a known carcinogen (and not just in the state of California). It’s bad stuff!

What do do:

(1) Wear protective clothing (latex gloves, face shields) when cleaning or changing out used electrolyte solutions. Make every effort to avoid exposure to this known carcinogen.

(2) Do NOT dump used solutions on the ground.

(3) The small volumes of used solutions that the typical “experimenter” will encounter can generally be easily stored in a plastic milk jug or two. Many municipalities provide opportunities for free annual or semi-annual delivery of toxic waste materials to the landfill or recycling center. Take advantage of those opportunities to dispose of your stored waste byproducts.

Don’t just be safe for yourself, but also be a moral and environmentlally safe, responsible citizen of God’s green world.

By: Leslie

Leslie — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:55:16 +0000

And:

Do not, ever, under NO CIRCUMSTANCE, make ANY electrical connections that will be exposed to HHO gas that might, even remotely, have the possibility of becoming loose and causing a stray spark. That means that there will be NO connections inside the HHO generator that are held together with nuts, bolts, washers—you name it—that could eventually corrode, loosen, and become a POTENTIAL source for sparks. Make all electrical connections OUTSIDE of the gas generator.

Remember, you are dealing with corrosive electrolytes and HIGHLY FLAMABLE gas with a very rapid rate of combustion (EXPLOSIVE). Route all HHO lines away from heat sources and make sure all tubings fit securely. Do it, but BE CAREFUL.

By: Leslie

Leslie — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:43:39 +0000

From what I’ve seen and read, the systems do produce HHO gas (a very flamable – read – EXPLOSIVE mixture). Dangerous stuff — but controllable. Gasoline is dangerous too, and we carry around gallons of the stuff without a second thought.

HHO gas does appear to improve combustion characteristics, increase octane rating, improve engine performance, horspower, torque, throttle response, fuel mileage. There are a few people out there who are doing serious testing and publishing real numbers that appear to be promising. There is also a bunch of junk published— this is the Internet— take it for what it is.

If you’re going to install a HHO system:

(1) Be careful. You’re dealing with corrosive electrolytes, electricity (low voltage but potentially high amperage), and an EXPLOSIVE end product.

(2) Use quality materials that will hold up to the corrosive environment to which they are exposed (such as 316L stainless steel).

(3) Control electrolyte heat and electrical current flow (amperage) by adjusting the concentration of electrolyte in your solution. (VERY IMPORTANT!)

(4) Install a power modulating circuit in the HHO power supply system.

(5) Above all, be careful and stay SAFE. HHO gas production for automotive use is EXPERIMENTAL. You will be building and installing this system at your own risk. No one is going to accept responsibility for your negligence — including me as I post to this blog.

This HHO gas injection looks like viable science. Do it! Promote it!—but be SAFE.

By: The Fitness Diva

The Fitness Diva — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:27:32 +0000

Oh my God, that’s just crazy. Keep up you blog, please. Don’t let anyone silence you. I can’t believe that someone has found your blog to be that much of a threat.

Yes, it pays to hide your private info. On a couple of my websites, I do.
Can’t have crazies walking right up to your door!

By: Bill

Bill — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:17:35 +0000

Government and long term effects? Does the steam and water in the exhaust, produced by the burning of hydrogen, slowly destroy the catalytic converter? I am also interested to know if anyone has put their vehicle through an government mandated emmissions test. I live in California and every vehicle is required to be “smog” tested every 2 years. That includes a visual as well as a computer analysis of the exhaust at idle and road speed. Has anyone been dinged for altering or modifying their vehicle? I do realize the hydrogen can clean the emissions up and the computer may see this and flag the test. As an electrical engineer and physicist, I am making my own unit for about $60 and figure about 3 to 4 hours of labor to build and install. As I was looking at my parts in my garage, I began to wonder about these two issues. I appreciate this blog.

By: watergas

watergas — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:29:29 +0000

I hooked up a watergas unit in my 2000 Durango
Without tweaking the computer mileage went from 12 in city to 14.9
19.50 hwy to 22.3 highway
say what you will when installed properly it works!!

By: best gas

best gas — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:07:21 +0000

best gas…

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By: TMinut

TMinut — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:36:52 +0000

My concern with this is that now we’ll have to buy water, use up all the resources that we need for daily life! Of course, we “need” gasoline for daily life but it’s not the same. There are already water disputes even in the rainy, humid southeast; I’m in the desert west.
Somewhere I read that emissions would be cleaner with this than with gasoline, don’t know how true it is.
People keep talking about the mpg but it’s not much of an improvement, I suppose the point is that it’s the same for much cheaper as well as less polluting.

By: Water for Gas

Water for Gas — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:11:32 +0000

The Water for Gas systems DO work. I’ve been running mine for 3 months now with no problems at all. Actually, it seems to run even smooother than before. I really think this is going to evolve into the new standard in vehicles.

By: Auto Repair

Auto Repair — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:06:04 +0000

I have contemplated installing something like this on my Chevy. I am curious to see how you feel about the decision. Are you happy with the results you have achieved or would you recommend waiting?