Comments on: Water For Gas Problems

By: jr

jr — Sun, 28 Dec 2008 06:32:55 +0000

If this system works, why hasn’t some one built a plant which uses sea water for example (all ready has salt in it) or rain water to produce electrical power for our cities? Or a smaller unit tfor a farm or cabin in the back country, it seens to me if it works on a small scale like in a jar under the hood of a car it will work on a large scale like a an electrical generator plant. why not use wind generators to produce electric power to produce the hydrogen to power the eltrical generators? just wondering

By: JeanM

JeanM — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:11:36 +0000

Don’t have a reply, but I, too, am skeptical of the results, and wondering if I should take the risk and install a unit on my ‘02 Nissan Pathfinder? If there any way something will get damaged on my vehicle? Any comments would be appreciate. Thanks!

By: Kevin

Kevin — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:25:08 +0000

I put an Electrolyzer together teed it into my ‘07 Corolla and got a check Engine light every time and in highway tests of 31 miles round trip got no change in mileage. I wanted to put the gas vapor into the intake but I refuse to do anything that is not reversible while still under warranty. So for about 2 months now the Electrolyzer sits in my garage and collects dust. What is my next move if any?

By: joloy

joloy — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:25:41 +0000

to Jordan:

I seem to agree to your research about methanol and water to produce more hydrogen. Can you give me the e-address for that topic. Can you give me the mixture formula how much methanol to water or do we still need to add NaOH or soda. Tnx

By: Derek

Derek — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:46:04 +0000

I have built my own generator in my 2005 chevy Impala. I do have alot of work to do with different disigns, But so far it has made a difference in mpg, smoother running, preformance, and it smells better,( not like rotten eggs) no sulfur smell. I have alot of people that tell me it doesn’t work and I tell them they are right. It makes a difference in my pocket book and to the fact, I am trying to help the cause. It matters to me that it works and that my car is better. HHO generators are not mantainance free and do require you to keep up on them ,but it does make a difference to the person who cares.

By: Ethan

Ethan — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:36:20 +0000

In all the discussions I have found, everyone talks about the hydrogen being the supplement to the gasoline. While that is true, the gas and hydrogen are the fuels, what they often forget is that oxygen from the electrolysis is also being pushed into the combustion chambers. I do not recall how much of normal air is oxygen, but 60% is nitrogen… non-combustible. With the water4gas system, additional oxygen is pumped in and making the explosions quicker, stronger, more violent (however you want to say it). Hospitals have a richer oxygen and they have to be very careful using anything that will spark. While the hydrogen tank theories may not be much benefit, the water4gas has both hydrogen and oxygen in the formula.

By: Jordan

Jordan — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:08:56 +0000

NASA has released multiple papers on hydrogen for use in multiple cylinder engines and the leaning effects. Actually water by itself is pretty poor. Methanol mixed with water yield the best results. 6-7X more hydrogen produced and no oxygen by itself. Anyone can find these papers on the web.

Not sure what a chemist would know about rocket science.

By: Bill

Bill — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:25:27 +0000

I think people have the idea this is a replacement for gasoline. The hydrogen is only a supplement. If you add hydrogen to the mix, you remove SOME of the gasoline that would be used in combustion. So, don’t look at it as a replacement in total. Next, hydrogen has a lower and faster ignition. If you were to burn only hydrogen in a typical gas engine you would have to retard the engine to 0 degrees or a degree past TDC (top dead center). If hydrogen burns this well, then mixing it with gasoline that requires a longer ignition time, thus we have to ignite it in advance of 0 degrees, would burn more complete and require less gasoline to the engine cylinder. Gas engines are really inefficient due to too many moving parts. I’m guessing a wankle or rotary type motor would be more efficient as they are closer to the operating characteristics of a turbine which is about as efficient as you can get. Just my thoughts.

By: frank

frank — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:42:37 +0000

i have heard that there is a probulm with hi heat in the cyl head,and that it is causing head gasket troubles,i have a 05 chevy v6 let me know if this is true or not

By: John

John — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:16:46 +0000

Although I have not yet built a hydroxyl generator, I have done quite a bit of research. Anyone who wants to dismiss the hydrogen/oxygen gas from water theory as a scam or hoax is more than welcome to do it…….we live in a free country. Those who want to whine because some work is required to reap the benefits from this system please re-read the literature!! It never said that it was a “something for nothing” venture!! Too many out there want to climb on the backs of others who work to achieve.
No system is perfect - the auto manufacturers are a perfect example. When it comes to fleecing the public, the oil industry does a pretty good job as well. Those who want to gripe about their situation will always do so. Those who want to improve their situation will take a chance. I prefer the latter and will be installing a system on my motorcycle and my car. When it works, I will pass it on to others to help them improve their situation. It doesn’t take a genius to build this system, it merely takes a little time and money (which I will get back in fuel savings) and a little persistance. Those who put their faith in the retirement systems that failed, the stock market that lost money, and the banks that folded trusted the wrong people. Try having some faith in your own abilitiy and the help from others trying to change for a better world. We live in a great country - not a perfect one! I’ll get off of my soapbox now……..

By: Dav

Dav — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:26:24 +0000

I bought this e-book for $97 from GAS 4 Free. I would definitly call this a SCAM. I say that because they use a lot of misrepresentation on their website. You have to be a mechanical GENIUS to follow it and it will take DAYS not hours to make the thing work. Besides it will cost you HUNDREDS of dollars to make it and install it. It is NOT easy, and it is NOT cheap.

If you have lots of extra time on your hands (and maybe you do if you are reading this :)) and are very experienced with tools and cars, and have a few exra hundred dollars to invest, MAYBE this is for you.

I am going to try and get my money back under their 8 week guarantee.

By: brad (uk)

brad (uk) — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:18:57 +0000

hi. i’ve been running this system on my diesel van for about a year now. this is not a common rail diesel system so i had to adjust the diesel pump slightly. i’ve seen a massive increase in mpg. cant really give an accurate figure as the van does varying trips from week to week. (in town or motorway.
i am now starting to install on petrol engines with pre and post cat o2 sensors. no fancy gadgets like map enhancers ets. just a case of giving both sensors a good wrapping in foil. the reason this works is because the sensor compares the oxygrn in the exhaust fumes to the outside atmosphere. the sensor draws in outside o2 through the back of the sensor into the tip where the chemical reaction takes place which generates the current to the ecu.
by wrapping the sensor you not only insulate the sensor making the outside shell hotter, but if you ’seal’ it well with the foil and wire ties you obstruct the o2 being drawn in from the outside air.
i needed to prove this to myself before instalation so i tried the wraps without the kit and observed the readings on my scanner.there was a distinc change in voltage.
now i have had the kit fitted for 2 weeks and the car has alrady exceeded it’s normal amount of miles to a full tank by 43 with just under a quater of a tank to go.

By: Kyle

Kyle — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 02:46:33 +0000

Hi im pretty late in the conversation but I need help. I recently installed my own version of water4gas hho kit. I followed the instructions from the manual but the first time I used it I went and looked at it after a couple hours of driving and almost all of the ater had disappeared. Im not sure if that was from the suction by the vacuum tubes or what. does anybody have any idea?

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By: Dave V.

Dave V. — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:22:23 +0000

I am currently building and installing the HHO systems. For those that are skeptics, it is simple, IT WORKS. There are several things people are questioning. First, it is totally safe if using the prescribed precautions. It won’t blow up!!! Secondly, the DEMSE is simple to use and the results of using the DEMSE in conjuction with the O2 wraps and the addition of acetone to the fuel tank has taken my 2003 Chevy 4.8L extended cab truck from 19 mpg as rated by the EPA to an incredible 29 mpg. Simple said, the math doesn’t lie. 10 miles per gallon increase with 26 gallon tank shows the possibility of an additional 260 miles per tank. Recently I have installed a 6-pack on a 1998 freightliner. The increase in mpg is almost 25%, but bare in mind that it only gets about 6-7 mpg prior to installation, and now gets between 8-9 mpg. This has become so successful with me and my partners that we have had to employ an additional 4 people to help build and install. Any questions or comments can be made to me directly at this email address: davon71@comcast.net