Comments on: Water for gas scam?

By: Steve

Steve — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:27:19 +0000

Hello Again,
Thought I’d add a few more comments. When building my kits I used stainless steel all-thread with stainless nuts to space apart stainless washers stacking as many as I could cram on the electrodes(SURFACE AREA!). AND it didn’t cost an arm and a leg. The negative (-) electrode produces the hydrogen and will turn brown and degrade with time – suggest swapping polarity occasionally to extend the life of the electrodes.

As for the negative comments above – someone didn’t do any homework! This technology has been around for at least 100 years, it just hasn’t been applied. Water injection was used in airplanes during WWII. Newer vehicles need tweeking -as David (above) says the computer will try and override your improvement. Be careful making any permanent modifications as you may be breaking some EPA law.

By: Steve

Steve — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:46:58 +0000

Hello All,
I have built a few of these systems and they do work! 1st system was on 1996 Dodge 3/4ton Cummins diesel – 20% increase in fuel mileage across the board. Same with 2005 Dodge 1ton. Installed on 1979 GMC 1/2 ton gas(350cid) – before install 12mpg and would not idle for more than 10min because of over rich fuel mix (Quadrajet!).

After install let idle for 5 min then gunned throttle – large cloud of black smoke. After another 3 min gunned again and blobs of black carbon goo shot out the tail pipe. Drove truck on 50 mile daily commute for 5 days. Now truck gets 16mpg and idles smoothly and for as long as you want!
The electrolysis separates the oxygen and hydrogen and after burning recombines into water – cool, really, it cools and cleans the combustion chamber and will actually extend engine life.

You do have to have keep the fuel in the mix to provide lubrication. Be careful when experimenting because hydrogen burns at over 3000 cfps – POW! Highly explosive but not too dangerous for this application because of the small amount. Ever seen a car battery explode? – hydrogen gas.
Hope this helps.

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By: KonstantinMiller

KonstantinMiller — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:51:31 +0000

I have been looking looking around for this kind of information. Will you post some more in future? I’ll be grateful if you will.

By: jake

jake — Fri, 08 May 2009 21:23:43 +0000

” Pat, Hey, I just pruchased the e-book from Run Your Car on Water. I am dying to try it but I need someone to fabricate the device. I have no expertise in this area. I have read the bolgs and I still don’t know whether or not to believe that this can work. It could be well worth while and I am willing to take a chance. I did find a site that was selling all the parts with plans to fabricate it but I lost the site due to computer failure! If anyone has come across ” an already buit device” I would try it.

Glad to hear others interested in this . Thought that I was the only one ! ”

You can the units off of ebay for about 60 70 bucks.

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By: Pat Hall

Pat Hall — Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:38:09 +0000

Pat, Hey, I just pruchased the e-book from Run Your Car on Water. I am dying to try it but I need someone to fabricate the device. I have no expertise in this area. I have read the bolgs and I still don’t know whether or not to believe that this can work. It could be well worth while and I am willing to take a chance. I did find a site that was selling all the parts with plans to fabricate it but I lost the site due to computer failure! If anyone has come across ” an already buit device” I would try it.

Glad to hear others interested in this . Thought that I was the only one !

By: timmy

timmy — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:29:17 +0000

Hi Guys,
I haven’t tried this so can’t comment on whether it works or not nor do I have all the answers…

But, I did see a TV clip where Fox (?) had a segment on a chap working with HHO, etc.. Some of you might have seen it.
Here’s me thinking out loud :
If this all is just a scam, then surely the US Army would have picked it up or the guy wouldn’t have gone beyond testifying in Congress, etc….
There must be something to it…

Regards,
Tim

By: joloy

joloy — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:51:58 +0000

I have actually built an HHO generator using glass jar and stainless steel wire used by fishermen wrap around a three part plexie glass glued together to form a tower support. To maintain the required wire clearance I use a fisherman nylon I wrap around the stainless wire. I tried to improvise because I could not afford to buy the e-books. I do not have problems with hoses (from auto stores) and the t-fittings (from aquarium store) including the electrical/electronic parts, but I have problem where to buy the check valves and cheap flashback arrestor. Although the aquarium store got some plastic check valves. when I tried it to may motorbike the water turns light brown but it did produce HHO, lots of bubbles. But I did not continue because I lack the right check valves. I only use the bubbler.
I think it will help increase fuel economy. The HHO does not actually burn like ordinary kerosene/gasoline when I tried the ligther (without the butane) but it exploded, first there were small popping sounds with almost invisible light. I would say that the e-books are just great ideas that needed serious experimentations and validations. People just want to cash on it right away. There a lot of people who does not want the manual controls, I mean they want some kind of computer to control it all – plug n play, hassle free. I think it would be possible to invent a smart controller for this – we have a 50 dollar celphones that can do so many things. Somehow it will evolved.

By: joloy

joloy — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:15:45 +0000

Gentlemen:

Here in the philippines, people could not believe that LPG can fuel our taxis because it is very dangerous and yet we are running on LPG. People are laughing at Cris Columbus when he says the world is round and spent a lifetime to prove it. No one would expect that we can go to the moon. Goodyear died without seeing the best part of rubber tire making. Galileo got some trouble when he sees the palnet and not God. HHO can be our future. Give it a chance. I our power plants we got hundreds of megawatt hours of idle energy just to serve us the so called grid reserve, say buffer power. why don’t we try producing HHO or H2 from it. In our cars, the alternator is already producing extra power that we do not actually use, why not use it to to produce HHO. I agree that this is not yet a perfect system. Just like when they try to solve the problem of too much oxygen, the invented the O-sensor. But I believe this thing will evolved. Have a nice day guys.

By: Alan S.

Alan S. — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:43:47 +0000

OK. Just to let everybody know. Me and a friend have build our own fuel cell(hho). And all though we have installed it on an 2008 silerado. with a 4.8L v-8. We have found no improvement in gas mileage yet.
But we are just doing city driving. our next test is to start today.
we are taking the truck on a 300 mile drive.
i will let everyone know how things turn out. @ the end of the week.

By: Nat

Nat — Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:36:58 +0000

B! Your post says to “give this info free”. Someone worked hard on research and compiling the info, this took time, money and effort on their part. And you want it to be given away for free? You are crazy!

By: B

Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:50:11 +0000

I just found out about this yesterday and I’ve got a question.
Why is everybody jumping on the “lets all make money off of this idea” bandwagon? This should be completely free information. I understand that the water for gas pioneers would like to be compensated for their time and effort.

However it is my opinion that if this thing is as revolutionary as everybody is making it out to be then we could save our country if not the world. Call me crazy, but if a guy can build a machine that converts water to a gas (HHO) that can replace an oxy/acetalyne torch, burn a hole in a brick then melt a tungsten electrode and just turn back into water then there are far more applications for HHO gas than anybody can fathom at this point. Just think of the possibilities, we could run our entire house off a generator (no more power bills), drive our cars for next to nothing with more expirimentation, etc.. there are endless uses for HHO if it is as good as it sounds.

What I am getting at is that instead of trying to make huge money off of it, why not give the information for free or at least VERY CHEAPLY and have the whole world using HHO. I promise you guys will still be gazillionaires.
You want to send BIG OIL running for cover let everybody have and use the info for free. Of course the people who do the research would need to be paid but not that much. If we could live for almost free wouldn’t that be better than having to go to the rat race everyday just to make ends meet.

Not saying that it really works, just saying that if it does and we use it to its fullest potential it is well worth all the effort put into it. It will probably take several more years before we see anything like what I am talking about but I’ll tell you now, I’m not scared to work now so my kids can live for free.

I for one am all for this technology if it will hit all the greedy @#$&^$% where it hurts.

By: Dav

Dav — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:24:27 +0000

I bought this e-book for $97 from GAS 4 Free. I would definitly call this a SCAM. I say that because they use a lot of misrepresentation on their website. You have to be a mechanical GENIUS to follow it and it will take DAYS not hours to make the thing work. Besides it will cost you HUNDREDS of dollars to make it and install it. It is NOT easy, and it is NOT cheap.

If you have lots of extra time on your hands (and maybe you do if you are reading this ) and are very experienced with tools and cars, and have a few exra hundred dollars to invest, MAYBE this is for you.

I am going to try and get my money back under their 8 week guarantee.

By: Griff

Griff — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:10:21 +0000

Is anyone thinking out there? You take electricity that is generated by an approx. 80% efficient alternator, to hydrolize water at some where between 50 and 80% efficiency and you expect to get what would be huge efficiency gains from it? I think not. If you were to run the engine on anything other than trace amounts of hydrogen (and the hydrogen is all that is burned, as the air supplies sufficient oxygen for burning), it would take substantial amounts of electricity and water. Far more than what we are talking about here. If this system does anything at all, it is not because of creating HHO and burning it. I doubt any of the data is real, and if it was obtained honestly, I doubt it can be recreated. There are thousands of engineers and scientists salivating over such a discovery. Do they know everything? No, but they are not hiding this from the public or all of the lucrative opportunities such a technology would provide.
William I. Griffith, Ph.D.